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Lt. John Pike makes an unexpected appearance in Georges Seurat's "A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte."
It's not enough that the police are pepper spraying Occupy protesters, now they're taking aim at famous works of art — as an Internet meme, of course.
It was only a matter of time before the viral image of that UC Davis cop (Lt. John Pike, you're famous now! Or infamous?) made it into certain images, but it's a stroke of genius to incorporate it into famous works of art, as you can see below (and which we saw all over Facebook last night, too).
James Alex, an American artist living in Edinburgh, Scotland, created some of the images Sunday night after seeing the Seurat mash-up (above), and expanded it to others such as the Manet, the Eakins, Wyeth and Willard, posting them to his Tumblr.
"I started to think about the UC students using a peaceful method of protest, i.e. sitting, and how truly revolutionary such a passive event like sitting could be. Then I started to think about paintings being passive yet revolutionary especially in their own time and yes, now too," he wrote in an email to msnbc.com this morning. "Popping in the image of the officer resulted in something quite dynamic with a multitude of meanings, the least of which is playing with the idea of historical events and how unamerican a violent act can be."
Here, Alex chose Andrew Wyeth's "Christina's World" to express his thoughts. Another creative soul chose Picasso's "Guernica" to reveal the police presence now seen around the world.
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Lt. John Pike makes a stealthy cameo in Picasso's "Guernica."
Others have done the random photoshop, and still more have merged memes (see the Leo diCaprio strut below, too).
Leo diCaprio strut meme merges with pepper spray image
There's much more on Know Your Meme's "Casually Pepper Spray Everything Cop" page.
UC Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi has come under fire for her handling of the situation, putting the offending officers caught on camera on administrative leave. While these images conjure up the lighter side of the police action, we realize how serious the situation really is. If you haven't seen the original image yet, here it is, followed by a video about the ensuing controversy.
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Students at UC Davis are pepper sprayed.
As faculty members call for her resignation, the chancellor of UC Davis launched an investigation into the pepper-spraying of apparently peaceful Occupy Davis protesters by campus police. NBC's Ayman Mohyeldin reports.
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- 'Occupy,' 'deficit' and 'fracking' named top words of 2011
- Jim Carrey's pathetic midlife crisis is a meme
- The end is nigh! Internet meme spotted in real world
Check out Technolog on Facebook, and on Twitter, follow Athima Chansanchai, who is also trying to keep her head above water in the Google+ stream.
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They where pigs in the 60s and that hasn't changed at all.
And it is that sort of attitude that makes it very easy to pull the trigger (on pepperspray that is ;)) on persons like yourself. Why in the hell would they want to show ANY form of respect to those that show absolutely none towards them?
Personally, if I were in charge and I had protesters blocking traffic I would send in the street cleaners. That is what you use to clean up garbage!
Are you sure you live in the same country I do? Last time I looked part of our constitution assures us that we can peacefully protest in public. That is what separates us from countries like China. I did not see any violence going on among the protesters.
None o us have seen what happened prior to the Pepper Spray Incident.
Apparently, the Protesters were circling the Police in a threatening way.
Peaceful Protests; yes, but not protesters who attack police; they were pre warned to STOP--
I have NO sympathy for these no do gooders---take a bath as one Politician said and get a job.
The OWS is just plain stupid. Wall Street is turning on Pres. Obama now.
Jarhead - Police are paid to protect everyone even if they are being called names.
How old are these people? They are all acting like a bunch of grade school kids.
Furthermore, these protesters were not blocking any traffic, but sitting on the grass on campus.
Our country needs people in charge who have the ability to think, and not hot head imbeciles who are ruled by their emotions.
The last time I looked we still have a Constitution that gives U.S. citizens rights!
These idiots were blocking a sidewalk. Should have used the batons on their hard heads.
Jarhead,
You should have stayed overseas... it seems your ideas of "freedom" are perfectly aligned with Iran, Iraq and Pakistan. "Do what we say, or we beat you into submission." You should look into moving over there, it fits you perfectly.
You are not a hero, you are a disgrace... an utter disgrace to the constitution, this country, and America.
Peaceful protest is protesting where it does not cause dangerous situations to occur for your fellow citizens.
Blocking roads, gates or any other thoroughfare your fellow citizens need is not peaceful protest - it is simply bad passive-aggressive behavior and should be punished!
Bring on the streetsweepers and the pepper spray - take our country back from the idiotic and selfish protesters!!
I agree with Jarhead. I can only speak from my local point of view. The Occupy movement is a bunch of people to lazy to work that expect the working class to bust their ass so they can live on Welfare and get their housing, food, beer, and drugs for free. I am all for free speach, but these people should put as much effort into getting a job or starting a business. And yes Bengal they are peaceful from a noise standpoint. But I for one sure do want my children seeing these people and thinking that is an ok way to act in their community.
When in trouble and in need don't call the police call the OWS the'll crap in your yard for you.
Comments like those of Jarhead in WI are why I have no respect for our military or police force. Bullies, one and all. They joined to protect their fellow Americans? No, so they can abuse them.
If not for the right to free speech and assemble, how do we express our thoughts, our wishes, our ideas to create a better world? Do we go back to book burnings, the smothering of others thinking and burning free-thinkers at the stake?
Do we merely permit Dark Ages societal voices and brainwashing cliches to rule our lives and keep us in the dark? Pepper spray one day, the next witch burnings with some brainwashed drone deciding who gets burned and who doesn't. Heil America.
These comments are so depressing!
Yes, these officers were pigs and took advantage of their position. But since when is it OK to judge the whole by the actions of the few? There are plenty of police out there doing their job and doing it right.
Condemn these fools - I support that. Don't condemn them all.
So what I hear is that people support the right to protest, BUT...
1) That right stops if you block ANY traffic... so standing or sitting ANYWHERE is technically blocking someone who wants to take that specified route. So merely standing or sitting is "blocking" someone.
2) That right stops when you, or your "children", have to see them... so the simple act of being visible is too much.
Got it... according to people here, you have the "right" to peacefully assemble as long as you are not visible and not taking up physical space.
Don't you love how people twist words to basically say, "I do not support their right to assemble."
According to these standards, the Tea Party did NOT have a right to assemble... as they were both visible and taking up public space that someone may have wanted to travel.
I don't like cry baby hippie wannabie's, and I cant stand Cops that abuse the little bit power that they do have. The officer's in this video were totally out of line. I cant stand bullies, and those cops are bullies. Respect is a two way street Jarhead, those cops had no reason to spray those kids. So why would you show respect to jerks that spray you for no reason. The threat was the crowd standing all around them, not the stoners sitting on the ground.
@fomer-GOP - You must be well acquainted with Jane Fonda. Although I don't necessarily agree with Jarhead's opinion, what you said was absolutely atrocious. Seeing as how well versed you are in Iraq, Iran and Pakistan, I presume you served at least one tour in the Middle East to be able to say something like that. Although, I truly hope you are not an American!
We have the right to protest peacefully. Some of you say well you dont know what happened before. What do you idiots think the kids sitting down linking arms did? You just show are stupid you are. If the cops we're gonna pepper spray the "big bad rioters" why not the ones that were standing circling them?
former-GOP, Bryan,
I am hurt, I am crushed, I dont know what to say ... oh wait, yes I do. Your welcome. Just remember who secured those rights for you two to run your cakeholes, it sure wasnt the "peaceful protester", it was the "bullies".
And former- GOP, I actually wanted to stay over in Iran, Iraq and Pakistan but someone told me that there were candy assed liberals at home that needed to be pepper sprayed so I jumped at the chance to come home and make the little babies cry.
Here is a Kleenex!
AbleKane,
I fail to see the issue with my comment towards Jarhead... he shares a similar ideology to that found in many middle eastern countries. Mainly, his posts illustrate that he supports violent assault and forced submission of anyone with opposing views. If you do not agree with his views, he supports forcing that belief on you or silencing your voice.
As a volunteer (69-72) us army I applaud these protesters I served my country so people could protest I see no overt act by these people to make the cops do this sitting on a side walk in no way stop traffic as some bone head suggest police are surrounded all the time walking a beat down town what next walking to close to them is grounds for offensive tactics.By the way this post was about the use of images which was GREAT remember law officers EVERY action you take is forever on the net STOP embarrassing your uniform!
My wife just made an incredibly valid comment to me that applies so well here to these OWS protesters.
She would not hire any of these OWS protesters. Why? If they cannot handle directions from obvious authority figures as police officers clearly are, why would they obey the orders of an employer, who is the authority figure at work. She does not need the headache that an employee, who thinks they have the right to argue and protester every direction given, would cause.
Clearly, these people have no desire to work because they cannot perform the basic tenet of employment - obedience to authority.
OWS is an expression of selfishness, nothing else!
You people are idiots. First, its not public. It is a privately owned school. Second, You can peacefully protest but you CANNOT impede the rights of others while doing it. If you are blocking traffic or preventing someone from going to work, you will be asked to move...if you dont move...they will move you.
Example for the idiots still confused.. Imagine a group is protesting on your street. Lets say its the Gun Rights people like the NRA (know you'll hate them) and they are sitting in the road blocking the road to your home. Is that fair that you should not be able to go home? Wouldn't you want the police to "move" them?
You know like a few before me said that we don't know what happened before the pepper spray. The news media is just like some bible thumpers, they take a saying from the bible but only use the words they like. If these protesters were incircling the police and they had reason to fear that some of them may be harmed they have a right to pepper spray a group that might have been blocking they way for extra support to get in. Must have been a big day for tests so it is one way to get out of them. See how the protesters from 45-50 years ago have made this world so much better than the 60"s.
What country are you from where 'not showing respect' to a cop gives them the legal right to pepper-spray you in the face? Goodness, I hope you never come to the United States - we don't need an ignorant attitude like yours here.
Interesting how in the lampooned versions of the artwork, the peaceful serenity in the background doesn't include the people urinating on the trees, no one is passed out from drinking or drugging on the ground, and the grass is not littered with filth. Oh, and let's not forget the dead bodies.
Typical of children: they only tell the version of the story that is true in their own minds.
MIke--I, too, am a Veteran--70-74 and I feel that the thugs wearing the uniforms are robbing us all of freedoms. Go 99%! Good post.
The cops are armed, ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS!!!!!!! Pepper spray, guns that shoot paintball sized pepper spray, and more than likely they had their real gun's as well. We pay them to protect us, not to abuse our rights. The cops said the crowd was surrounding them, well yeah!! They are on a college campus, and most colleges have more kids on campus than cops have on the force. I'm just saying
You know who the biggest single employer in the US is? The military. I'll laugh when Congress can't come up with a spending deal and half of the US military jobs are lost. All of those people acting like they are hard a@@es here will be in the unemployment line and soon they will join these protestors. The joke will be on you Jarhead and Plague. Get a real job and quit leeching off of the tax-payers
Bottom line: The protestors were not threatening to take over the police. It was the police that were threatening the protestors. In almost every instance, believe it or not, the police were responsible for the chaos that ensued. Their indiscriminate bullying, their charging with their billy clubs and seriously hurting the protestors violate the Constitution. Beware, you may be next. The seeds of oligarchy are being sown.
Jonathan,
You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
People like Jarhead will be in for a shock when they find out that the ability to point and shoot a gun does not translate into appropriate business skills. Of course, most of them try to look for jobs in local police and fire departments... but with those budgets ALSO getting cut, those jobs are shrinking.
They may think that the OWS crowd just needs to "go look for a job"... but reality is about to bite them in the @ss. Get ready for the unemployment line to swell with ex-military personal looking for... what did they call that?... Oh ya, handouts.
fomer-GOP - Are you not doing the same, forcing your views on everyone else, then slandering all those that oppose you by calling them evil Republicans? Also, if he had the ideaology of a Middle Eastern, his resolution to the problem would be death by hanging. Discussion, as we are doing here, is not an option in the Middle East. We are far from being even close to their ways of life.
I think those with extremist views on both sides should move to another mart of the world! From the evidence so far, it seems that this cop took his authority too far by pepper spraying the protesters. I really don't think "blocking" a sidewalk calls for being pepper sprayed. Where are they supposed to protest? On the quad? But on the other hand, most cops are just doing their job and putting their lives on the line to protect us. They just need to keep cooler heads at all times so situations like this don't arise. Cops need to learn when to use their authoritative demeanor and when to be more empathetic to what's going on around them (all the while following orders given from their superiors).
I find it kind of funny when people say that OWS protestors should get jobs when the OWS encompasses all of the Unions that are protesting with them, such as: Auto Workers Union, Verizon, Teachers, Doctors, etc.
It's very hard to get a job. Some people don't have the opportunity to up and move to a new city or state to look for a better job.
OK, people they are ON A SIDEWALK, NOT A STREET!!!!! They are not blocking anyone from going anywhere. The people can walk around them on the grass. What are you people looking at? To all of our men that have kicked ass over seas, THANK YOU!!!
Jarhead you have some good points man, but why do you want to stomp on the rights of the very people you went to war to protect? It makes no sense. If you are a true solider you should know this!!!!!
Well we sure can tell who all the cowards that have never served are . The ones that want their rights for everything but do not sacrifice anything.It's always the Libs that have a problem with authority you Veitnam Vets remember like thge ones that spit in your face when you came home!!!
They did not have a legal right to protest where they were, they did not leave when ordered to. Why should they get special treatment? Pepperspray is a mild method to make them leave after they refused.
and "your" an idiot
@Texas History: I deal with unemployed people all the time and cannot believe the excuses given even when employers are willing to help pay for or are willing to take the move out of future paychecks. Seriously, the overwhelming majority of folks are desperate to stay exactly where they are. FACT!
OWS simply wants the handout of a job-to-their-taste that most steady unemployed desire.
If I ever see a person spit on a solider, I will do my best to beat the crap out of that person before the COPS come arrest me and not the trader puke that spit on the solider!!!!
@former-GOP and Jonathan
You can laugh when the military gets disbanded or cut in half but remember, if the military goes away, so will your right to protest and many more of your rights.
Plus Da Bosun, they will scream about being unemployed then because the employers will get rid of them and hire vets who know how to do what they are told and what working hard is all about.
fomer-GOP, Jarhead In WI, AlienMartian, Mike-416, first rule:
You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
Jarhead, or S**thead,
If you were under my command, I'm certain I would have had you court-martialed for something or other. You're attitude is a disgrace to the men and women of the uniformed services, especially those that gave their lives to maintain freedom of speech and assembly; so that morons like you could spout crap. Just like you can speak your neo-Nazi beliefs without being incarcerated, those so called "Hippies," have a right to protest without undue force being used against them.
So, tell us the truth: you were dishonorably discharged and now hold a grudge against anything American. For your sake, get professional help.
Reply to Douglas339230 #1.21 so your wife thinks she has a valid point or you do. I suggest you think about this if you worked for a company the was illegally dumping waste of course you would want an employee that followed direction I see no differences in protesters objecting to the lack of job, theft by wall street in the only manner that seems to get attention only to be vilified by the far right Fox almost news and police not all of the cops but my anger at the ones who do not try to rein in the brutes.
This OWS protest has now become a refuge for those who are criminals, indignants.
The Original Protesters with a Message are long gone. It is a Protest not against Wall Street, but a Protest against what is happening in this country.
President Obama, Nancy Pelosi are endorsing these hoodlums to continue their rant. Nothing said by the Pres. Very unusual. He could Calm the stituation, but chooses chaos among all of us---this is absolutely shocking. He is the Commander in Chief even for Domestic Issues.
When is he going to stand up and line himself up with the Majority who want action taken? Taken on real Domestic issues, not Wall Street. That doesn't even count as to the enormous amount of suffering among his people.
I am so disappointed. Many of my neighbors, friends, and family are poverty stricken, have lost their houses, jobs, and families; have "split" because of the Wars, directly affecting me.
End the War. Forget Wall Street, and let us know that someone, our Leader cares about the Welfare of the American Citizens; even the indignants who are Protesting. They are among the people who have no hope for change.
@Mike the Vet: You know darned well that there is a world of difference between these OWS people who cannot receive direction of any sort or actively refuse to and a person pointing out wrongdoing.
Furthermore Mike the Vet, you also know darned well that the OWS has left its virtuous beginnings, and has become a refuge for the unjust and the criminal.
Mike the Vet, did you pay attention during your basic training section on military ethics? When you twist what I posted as you have, makes me wonder about your attention to this section of your basic training.
As to theft by Wall Street, did anyone here hear you complaining in the '90s MtheV? No. You were earning money just fine then. What's changed? Nothing other than persons who are not so quiet about the ridiculous amounts of money they are making.
Do you need a job Mike? If yes, then move! There are lots of jobs in America and lots of employers grinding their teeth about not finding the right employee. That right employee just might be you 1,500 miles away or it could be someone else just a couple of counties away who just cannot be bothered to move the 30 or so miles to get the job they need. They would just rather sit and whine than do something proactive.
I was proactive, found a job over 2300 miles away, moved my family to take the job, had my checks garnished for six months to pay for the move and am now, doing fairly well. OWS at this time is not proactive at all and is bordering on the criminal.
I am not the average American I have seen become more common in my decades of life who is self-centered and hedonistic, expecting a handout for simply breathing.
You as a Vet Mike should know darn well that the only solution for not having what you need is proactive action on your own part and that is not the OWS way.
This picture is as "easy" and ignorant as the Kent university shooting.
When you know the whole story and context, it makes you think who was really stupid.
@ Jarhead - first off your not defending anything, your ATTACKING a soverighn nation with no pretense and under a lie propped up by Cheney to get Halliburton oil contracts if you went into Iraq. If you went to Afghanistan your just on a revenge mission that was blown completely out of proportion by an idiot leader and should have ended when they got Osama Bin Laden. Granted you don't make the decisions so you are not the one to blame for the wrongs our government has committed, but don't try and tell us your defending our rights by attacking another country.
These people have every right to protest under Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Assembly - freedoms you claim to have defended. What do you have to say about all the vets and current servicemen that are protesting? Do you shove them under your blanket statements as well? Its people like you that give the armed forces a bad name.
Respect goes both ways, if a police officer shows no respect why do they deserve respect in return?
You obviously have no idea what these people are protesting, they are protesting the wealthy moneygrubbers that are profiting by shipping jobs overseas to sweatshops in China, profiting of off exploiting those less well off, profiting off of laying off workers, lowering wages and slashing benefits in order to give million $ bonuses to executives. Don't try and say thats business because its not, its greed. Germany is a prime example of what can be done with quality jobs that pay high wages and offer good benefits, and take care of their people in general.
America is slowly becoming a facist police state, it all started with the "Patriot" Act which has turned out to be one of the most unpatriotic things to ever be rushed through congress. Ever since that peice of garbage went into effect we have lost more and more rights at the price of "catching terrorists." Terroists are the new scapegoat of the American war machine, just like it was Communists in the 60's 70's and 80's. Its all just BS propoganda shrouded in faux patriotism in order to trick us into beleiving that the government is in the right.
Douglas I do not need a job as i am retired and disabled but when the economy did a meltdown I still tried to work jobs were hard to find yes there were some and competition was fierce not evey one has all the options to pull up roots and move. I see many problem not being addressed by the way I was an analyst for the military so I see lots of bull being spread about OWS any group has misfits painting a few as the many is a common tactic.
None o us have seen what happened prior to the Pepper Spray Incident.
Apparently, the Protesters were circling the Police in a threatening way.
Peaceful Protests; yes, but not protesters who attack police; they were pre warned to STOP--
I have NO sympathy for these no do gooders---take a bath as one Politician said and get a job.
The OWS is just plain stupid. Wall Street is turning on Pres. Obama now.
@ Jarhead Gomer Pyle ... Typical Marine. I'm a vet and you're a disgrace to your uniform.
Since the sole purpose of law enforcement is to supposedly "protect and serve" I guess the only real question is whom law enforcement is actually protecting and serving?? The 1% or the rest of us???? Recent events should indicate the answer to that question so I will not bore you with my personal opinion.....
The US has lost the moral high ground overseas. We can no longer lecture other countries when
they use brute force to suppress peaceful nonviolent protesters. Thanks a lot UC Cal Davis Police.
Oh the poor innocent morons. They disregard police orders. They disregard the law, all in the name of "protesting". My only thought is why did they waste the pepper spray. They should have used clubs instead. It's not that they will ever be useful members of society. To accomplish that they would have to clean up and, shudder the thought, look for work instead of looking for the free ride...............
LOL pepper spray is not that bad you idiot. Let me see shooting someone or pepper spraying them get a clue! I have been pepper sprayed multiple times as has every police officer who uses it. Its not that freaking bad.
You have got to be kidding! You equate pepper spray with tanks, bullets and brutal beatings?
Clint is the TRUE representation of the Republican party. Just look at his response... forget freedom of speech, forget freedom to peacefully assemble, forget freedom... if you do not agree with Clint and Republicans, they will BEAT YOU INTO SUBMISSION.
"I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"... this phrase is lost on Republicans. In their eyes, you have no rights unless you agree with them. They will twist this phrase and claim, "you have the right to free speech as long as it does not bother me... everything you say bothers me. Thus, you have no right to free speech."
Republicans like Clint will bring fascism to America. They will rule over, oppress, and impose their tyranny on anyone who is not like them. You assimilate, or you get assaulted and beat into submission. Welcome to their new America, based on extremist principles.
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross."
Bengal, what a truly ridiculous statement.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING?
its not a free ride they are looking for
its jobs
when you spend at a minimum of 40 thousand dollars on tuition
and not being able to find a job in the field of your schooling
why pay money back
how can you pay money back no job
this is the problem
Yes we do. Don't justify brutality with one form of method or another.
Clint357,
Your right the cops were to lenient on these kids. They should have went old school, circa 1970. They could have easily out did Kent State!!!
You are correct. Why stop at pepper spray when they could have really made their mark in the history books.
What is really scary... image the cheers and excitement, from Republicans, if they had slaughtered every student. The Republicans would literally be jumping for joy over the bloodshed. THAT is the true Republican party.
Former-GOP,
Your not former anything. Your just a blind, partisan, knuckle dragger. Try being genuine. Either you don't understand sarcasm, or you are challenged.
The protesters were not obeying legal orders of the police officers. How is that peaceful protest?
There are plenty of jobs to be found if you are not being stuck up about it. I moved 2375 miles for my current job and took a dollar/hour pay cut. Then again, I wanted to be gainfully employed; I have my doubts about 90% of the protesters!
Too many of these current protests stiffs want jobs handed to them with no real effort on their part.
Spoiled little brats!
Write,
Show me where I am wrong... show me one part of my comment where I am wrong. EVERY SINGLE Republican on here has supported the officer, and MOST have called for harsher treatment towards protestors.
So come on... I dare you, show me where I am wrong.
Douglas,
So Obama was successful at creating jobs? Is that what you are saying. For the past 2 years people like YOU have been saying that Obama has failed to create a single job. NOW you say that jobs are plentiful... so he did not fail?
Which one is it? Did he create jobs and they are now plentiful... or did he fail at creating jobs?
former
The folks on this thread hardly constitute a majority of anything. I'm sure you realize that.... right. So to make generalizations like you made are reckless and dumb. What your are responding to was sarcasm. The foam around your mouth is getting in your eyes and blinding you from your own common sense.
Write,
If the "folks on this thread", as well as the entire Republican constituency, can make generalizations about every OWS protestor... then why can't I do the same? If YOU have the right to choose a few OWS protestors and generalize the majority of the movement on their actions... why can't I do the same?
Why do YOU, or any Republican, have the right to generalize... but I do not?
Answer that, with "common sense", if you would be so kind.
The protesters are doing the same all over the country as reported on the daily news and are meeting the same opposition from the general public everywhere they go. No one is hoping to slaughter them however as you have indicated. Again, you originally responded to a sarcastic comment from someone in your camp I suspect. You will use any excuse to generalize and color things to your view. I believe you are challenged. Carry on, its a free country.
Write,
And Republicans have cheered for executions and chanted "let him die" at national Republican debates... ON LIVE TELEVISION. This is not a single extremist poster I am referring to, it is a representation of the entire party, on the national stage, on live television. Couple THAT, with the response here in these forums, and I have an adequate sample size to apply a generalization to the entire party.
You have your generalizations reported in the media, I see mine happen LIVE during Republican debates, demonstrated on these forums, and reported in the media. Seems we BOTH have sufficient evidence for our generalizations.
You have failed to prove my generalizations wrong. If you would like, I can post links to the Republican debates where they cheered for executions. Of course, those executed had broken the law... as many believe the protestors do as well. So what evidence is there to support a different reaction other than joy and cheering?
Where's the pepper spray here. http://youtu.be/V4zbwWMqTS4 . The sanctuary la raza state of california needs to go to the white house and rape crap and piss on the street ejaculate in public ex , and tell that muslim plant to quit telling every illegal to com on over and get your jobs .
Douglas
What kind of job did you get and where?
Common sense! You have some right? You are amazingly leaning toward thinking that is alarmist and dangerous. Your generalizations ARE wrong and we both know it.
We could both go back and post examples of extremists on both side of the fence ad nauseam. It doesn't prove anything one way or the other.
I take it back, your not challenged, just plainly disingenuous...... and we ALL know it.
Former GOP: You are speaking for many of us. Thank you. All you're saying is what we all want to say. Yes, let's remove those R/Tps that have created chaos in this country, whose oath to Grover Norquist and his No Taxes on the Wealthy supercede the Oath to the U.S.A. the R/Tps had taken. The R/Tp motto: For ME, not thee. Thanks again, Former GOP. Happy to have you on board.
No Obama has not created very many new jobs at all; granted, his intiatives have maintained employment for thousands though. Bush did create new jobs; he went to war. A wartime home front is always filled with job opportunities.
Few thought it was ridiculous in 1943/4 to move thousands of miles to pick up employment that supported the war effort. On the plus side, many times it was better paying than what they had at home. On the negative side, it was, in large minority of cases, poorer paying. The importance was that it was both gainful employment and it supported the country. Why cannot our selfish fellow Americans do the same now? I moved over 2300 miles to be gainfully employed; why does the average OWS protester not bother?
OWS has outlived its usefulness; it is simply now the forum of the selfish and despicable.
Two disingenuous people..... you both have computers and internet access and in the grand scheme of things, feel cheated that you don't have more, despise those that do, and are determined to sit on the ground like a spoiled child until something happens.
For all their faults, at least the tea party was able to turn peaceful demonstration into real voting power.
You have to do more than sit, stink, and litter to get things done. There's my generalization.
@LAB159: Occupational skills trainer, life skills instructor, librarian and relevant researcher. A huge change from training people to provide security and other like functions here in America and abroad, among other tasks I was assigned, but teaching is teaching. In many instances teaching the "slow" in our nation is no different than dealing with "DD" trainees and cadets found all over the world.
Idaho. Granted, it is a big difference from Maryland or California, but it is gainful employment, and it pays all of the bills. Lots of interesting and downright fun to be had here, but most everything else is only a flight away so it works.
They were breaking the law. Plain and simple. They are hurting the cause by breaking the law.
All those rights to speech and protest and such have limits and responsibilites that go along with them.
ninnybon, Write-3226267, you're each suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
I protested in Berkeley and SF in the 60's and the Davis's cop (a true jackass) does not represent the overall decent morality of the force, these cops are not the Blue Meanies of the 60's...remember James Rector!
Left wing morons like you have turned this country into crap, you 60's dirtbag.
thank you plague...that's my good side too...
"PLAGUExxNINJA"--great name, sweetheart. Extremely appropriate to the middle-school child you either are, or to the stage at which your development arrested. Non-violent protest is legal in the United States. The police *do not* have the power to waltz in, order people to leave, and then start to beat or pepper-spray them. We know that they don't, sweetie, because these officers have been placed on leave, are being investigated, and will probably lose their jobs. One must have both the legal authority to disperse the crowd, and one cannot use force in excess of what is needed--because, you know, that's the law.
Apparently you kind of missed the 60's, dear. That was when non-violent protest was used to stop the un-Constitutional segregation of . . . oh, is that what you are referring to? You are unhappy that the United States no longer deprives people of their civil rights simply because they don't happen to have the right combination of DNA and phenotypical features? One has to have the features of those who came in from Europe, murdered the people who were living here, and then started to pretend that they, themselves, were the "natives"? Oh, well, that explains things, then.
Rector? Damn near killed er!
Jarhead In WI i dont know you but you are a nut go back over seas and set on a land mine baby killer
The ones that led the protests in the 60's are the ones in charge now. I just love the job they have done. If I would live to be a hundred then I could see what these idiots have in store for us.
Plague, you're an ignorant pos. You like to sound tough, why don't you post your address for us
You've proven everyone's point. It takes ignorance to support this officer's actions. Enjoy your miserable life.
Plague went totally over the line why was he not deleted? If that happened to me I would kick his anus and stuff his head where the sun does not shine vet or not. Problem is a question of locality.
Good to keep in mind, glen-1649508.
Don't deathwish anyone, especially other Viners. You're suspended for a week for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
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PLAGUExxNINJA banned, terrible first run, trolling all over this article.
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Jonathan-2084907, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
*jarheaded in wi*
It sounds like you bumped your head on the parade deck while in bootcamp or maybe it was your drilled instructor's fault for hollering in your ear, for not following orders/being stupid.
I was just wondering , if you and that u s cal davis police were on the same vigilance committee?
Most Marines that I know took an oath to uphold the US Constitution and to defend this country and it citizenry from both foreign and domestic enemies.
You are not representative of the US Marine Corp, nor General Patton. I would hope that no republican would even stoop that low...
Were you eve a member of the KKK??? You sound like a klu kluker...
Brilliant, funny, poignant, heartbreaking.
Waiting for Kent State round two. Lets get a body count already. We need something everyone in the world can look at in disgust. We need to NOT FORGET THIS TIME.
I think 5 have died so far...mostly od's or fighting. Long term effects of LSD, Aids may take a lot more down. What Valiant Crusaders!
Gandhi was right! Peaceful non-co-operation always brings out the brutality of authority.
Keep it up Occupiers, the police are being exposed as are their corporate masters.
This. It's kind of funny to see the police suddenly snap and go beserk because they don't have anything to do. So they create problems or make up things to make it seem like they were right.
Police are like politicians. Corrupt.
And a article about photo-shopping and fake pictures is news why?????
Because this is a tech forum discussing a new internet meme?
I suppose if they show a corn field that is news right. I mean Iowa?
Because it shows a very creative way to be subversive of the status quo.
Peggy... Your comment made me giggle. It sounds very flower power 60/70's era :-) loved it
Although I strongly support the right to protest and the Occupy Wall Street movement, it seems that in every demonstration there are a few jerks who ruin things for everyone by turning to violence and/or running their mouths inappropriately. Most cops are just doing their job, and shouldn't be subjected to abuse, yet there are always those few who target them for vilification. These uniformed men and women are just human, and inevitably when things get hairy, some lose their tempers. When that happens, they need to be supervised, and it's the fault of their departments when they're not and things get out of hand, as we have seen over the past few weeks. But it's also the responsibility of the demonstrators to behave like adults and expel the malefactors from their midst.
Wow! "behave like adults" . Now there's a concept! That would mean obeying the laws. That let's these folk out. Remember the "protest" philosophy, "Break any laws you want because they don't apply to us because we're the 1% protesting the lack of enough handouts".
I am prone to frustration and losing my temper, thusly I have not sought out an occupation in conflict resolution where I am provided with the authority and the means to kill and maim people. If you can't handle not getting your way from a few kids (whose prime directive is to defy and frustrate authority), you shouldn't swear to protect and serve. Be human if you want, but do it on your own time.
Maybe in every demonstration there are a few jerks who ruin things for everyone, but in this case the video clearly shows that these kids were not doing that. As far as the absolute bs that the cop felt threatened and cut off from his backup. It was not the kids sitting on the ground that had cut him off. Strolling leisurely back and forth waving your spray gun around trying to hurt people doesn't look like you feel threatened.
Fire the officer fire the chancellor.
Clint,
The real irony here is that the Republican/ TP party read the Constitution aloud in their first session so that everyone knew they were the champions of the document............I guess it is only followed when you don't disagree with them.
I would like you to read this and tell me about how any law can upsurp the constitution:
The 1st amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances
It seems the lawbreakers would be the policeman who has been placed on leave, they don't usually do that if you have done the correct thing, and the people who want to suppress their rights (such as yourself).
Unconstitutional laws can be made but are typically "thrown out" by any judge with even the minimum amount of common sense.......
So they expect what? Free lunch? The stupid OWS bunch is so out to lunch. Did they expect to be carried one by one and given a snack when they got to jail? They wanted trouble and the got it. No sympathy here.
Hey rusty jarhead..You are a disgrace to the Corps. My guess is you are just a Pogey Bait Marine and didn't make it beyond E-2. Whether we agree with the OWS crowd or not, we fought for their right to peacefully protest. The cop's act was cowardly and an abuse of power. Now please return to the bottom of the gene pool where you belong..Semper Fi brother.
Peacefully protest? They are not being peaceful. Passive aggressive behavior to bystanders and citizens who want to use our parks and walkways.
The cop's act would have been cowardly no matter what he would have done to some of you. I just want them somewhere else. They are costing tax payers and littering up our streets and parks.
you got that right Torpedo. No excuse for what he did.
don't forget OBOMBO and Pelosi and the demos support
these lazy liberals Aholes!
I like it! I agree with you Why have you got a right to protest when that right stops other people from doing their own thing. just like the old saying goes. Moving your fist in the air is your right, when it hits my nose then it is myt right and you and you violated it. Some kids go to school to learn others want to party and get into any thing that looks cool.
If you are truley a jarhead you fought for the right to peacefully assemble. The supposed reason we wasted 10 years,trillions of dollars, and most importantly hundreds of young people's lives and thousands of gravely wounded inthe middle east is to bring DEMOCRACY. I hope the images of the police acting like thugs at demonstration after demonstration go viral in those countrys. Maybe they can send troops to bring some liberty to the U.S.
Cue and how much is Wall street costing America.
Passive/Agressive behaviour what nonsense. That what they teach you in school.
So far it appears that most of the searious and unnessary abuse has come from police supervisors.
Rustyjarhead - Apparently you are not aware of the number of veterans that not only believe in the right of OWS to protest but are out there taking the heat (and pepper spray) with them. Have you tried to get a college education lately? Do you even know anyone in college? Do you think it's fair that in order to get a college education in America these days you can expect to be crippled by debt for your working life? At the root of OWS is protest against financial injustice at all levels. You probably don't know it, but unless you are in the top 1%, these "stupid kids" are protesting for YOU.
As a veteran myself, the discordance here among veterans is dismaying. Yes, we walked the lines, sweated, bled and go what we go through now for all our countrymen, but we did not do it for brats to violate the law and disrespect our brothers and sisters in defense on the homefront - law enforcement officers.
The sheer crap these officers have to suffer though in defending the rights of all from the majority of these bratty protesters is ridiculous. Their patience is huge; I am glad I never had to deal with Americans; they have a ridiculous lever of expectations of how their bad behavior should be tolerated by all and sundry.
The OWS protests have been out of hand for a while now and should be shut down until said time that all OWS protesters sign an agreement to behave responsibly and truly peaceably.
Douglas - I guess you're one of those veterans who enlisted because you lacked the ability to think for yourself and needed someone else to tell you how to behave. The rest of us would like to retain the ability to act according to our own convictions.
Many vet's are for the 99% we don't ask for handout's we ask for hands up like helping hands only to be slapped down by the right wing nut jobs that want to use us up no protest in history has been a clean and easy road there has always been those against fair treatment OWS will not go away and history will be on our side for if we don't hang together we will surely hang separately
Dont blame Rusty. He has TBI.
@Jonathan: Boy, have you showed your complete ignorance of both the military and public service.
Civilian-thru and through, you are; therefore you have no idea about the values: Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Service, Honor, Integrity and Courage. Your posting shows you do not have them in you either.
You and others like you are the problem. A lot of OWS people are just like you too. OWS is a sympton of the problem, and the problem is basic American selfishness and ingratitude.
Your hedonism is preserved by an ever growing smaller percentage of real Americans who understand what citizenship is all about. After their service, they bring that to employers and America in general, but they are unfortunately is the distinct minority. That is why America is in the trouble it is in today.
i mean think about it in other countries the police (if they have any) would have gunned these people down without a second thought.
OWS needs to rename itself the "0.99%" Would be more appropriate at this point.
The 1st amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances
Step 1: California decides not to enforce its laws anymore and praises criminals
Step 2: California falls into Anarchy
Step 3: Texas acquires any remaining talent from California
Love those CA Lemmings!
What does citrus fruit have to do with this?
@gelintor When life gives you lemmings, make lemming-ade.
Eric,
You might have to revise Step 2. CA might fall into the ocean before it falls into Anarchy.
The police do not have a right to excessive force to enforce the law. They could have removed those students from the sidewalk without pepper spray, the use of which was purely punitive. Punitive powers belong to the courts, not the cops. Their excuse for using (at point-blank range) military-grade pepper rated for use at a minimum distance of 15 feet was that the students didn't have handles, so they were "afraid" that lifting them would cause injury. And what did they do after spraying the students? They lifted them in the very same manner they claimed to be incapable of doing without causing injury.
Passive resistance IS peaceful resistance, and the students were clearly being passive. If an office is incapable of lifting a passively sitting college student and moving him fifteen feet so he is no longer blocking a sidewalk, then that officer is physically incapable of doing his job and should be removed from the force.
Since when is pepper spray considered excessive force? You see incidents today where the media will propagandize the situation where officers apparently utilize excessive force and place their own hidden agenda’s within the print lines. We will rarely see the entire situation as it unfolded and for the most part citizens and witnesses to the altercation do not know what they are actually observing, and above all, they do not know the use of force continuum. The bottom line is that the public for the most part does not understand what law enforcement and corrections do or endure, nor do they want to. They want to feel that they are safe & secure in their homes and have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Kai,
Get sprayed while exercising your constitutional rights and tell me if you think it is excessive.
You had condoned the officer's action by mentioning the general pulic "want to feel that they are safe & secure in their homes" which leads me to the question ....was the demonstration occurring in those people's home?
I thought college students where the brightest and best how times have changed . The LT. told them many many times to leave then showed them the pepper spray before he used it . I think the LT. had great follow through and did the right thing.If the young adults didn't get up and leave it's their own fault and they need to live with it after all they went there knowing they where going to break the law .
Yeah thats right....just roll over and piss yourself when the cops say something.
Forget your rights, forget everything....just obey.
Thats the law Angry Left.
If you dont like it..change it. But when the police tell a group of defiant individuals to move off the sidewalks the rest of the public are wanting to use, warn over and over but do not move.. they must be removed.
I would say this was better than being manhandled the way they could have been. These people are not peaceful. They are passive.. there is a difference.
Great Follow through?? Come on. This was a campus cop on a power trip. He needs to be fired along with the rest of the cops standing around while this was going on. Times have not changed they were simply College students attempting to stand up for what they believe in. This has been happening on campuses across the country for years.
CUE- yes they were manhandled in addition to the pepper spraying. Watch the additional footage on this.
It is NOT the law that a person has to move off the sidewalk or get pepper-sprayed. The police can move the people, and they can arrest the people, but one does not have the right to use excessive force. They cannot spray people with water cannons, shoot at them with rubber bullets, or pepper spray them unless there is a reason (i.e. they are being violent). Passive resistence has long been a tool of those who are using civil disobedience.
Should they be arrested--well, they can be. I doubt that they would get charged with much other than vagrancy or trespassing--but that's what can be done. One DOES NOT have the right to threaten people with violence or strong-arm tactics if they do not immediately obey.
You know--it would be great if you actually understood what you were talking about. This is NOT the way officers are allowed to behave--and that is why they are being investigated, have already been suspended, will probably be fired, and the provost will lose her job.
Again--it would really be nice if you understood what is and isn't allowed. Passive resistence IS a form of peaceful protest. Have a great day.
Yes, that IS right. We pay the police to enforce laws, and that means you too! When they tell you to leave, and you don't, then you get what's coming to you. Regardless of their cause, I have no sympathy for these fools who were given fair warning and neither should you.
Easy on the common sense, Josh. Most morons don't understand consequences or what it feels like to be held accountable when they choose not to listen to authority. If that officer chose not to follow through he would have empowered the protestors and things could have really gotten out of hand.
Take your medicine protestors - your rights to peacefully demonstrate end when you impede on the rights of others to go about life as they legally choose to.
It's technically called small dick syndrome. The Lt. probably would have pissed his pants had someone confronted his obvously fat lazy ass. The people he sprayed are standing for his rights to a decent living. What the Lt. doesn't realize is that once the wealthy dirt bags have no need of him, he will be in the gutter covered in his own feces.
And the students at Kent State in the 70's got what they deserved too. Cause the cops told them too disperse and they didn't. The government can do anything they want to you as long as they give you a warning. Which brings up another point, was the Nazi party really so bad? They did tell the Jews to leave, if they didn't, the German government was well within it's right to take action.
Some of the stupid comments here make me ashamed of being American.
Goodness, gracious, do some of you really believe you can impede on the rights of others because you are upset about something? Bull!! The officer warned of consequences; the protesters ignored him; the officer warned them repeatedly; the protesters ignored him repeatedly; the protesters then suffered the consequences told them. How is that a cop on a power trip?!?
Too many of our selfish fellow Americans think consequences are for other people. They feel their own expressions of right can tromp all over everyone else's because they are so selfish and self-important. Frankly, I am sick and tired about the OWS babies; spank them and put them off to work!
OWS is not the majority; why are they being cuddled? They should be forced at this point to go out and work at the jobs that are available. All they want is jobs right? Then let us work them then. Plenty of jobs for those folks out there serious about working and not concerned about being coddled. Moved over 2300 miles for mine. Why cannnot the whiners do that as well?
OWS, stop whining and start moving to the jobs!!!
This is a national movement to stand up to corporate greed, outsourcing jobs and economic disparity. Since the top 1% control the congress, now, through corruption, this is the only thing we can do. Nobody of reputable character should criticize the brave people who rich getting sprayed for what they believe is right. They are soldiers in their own right.
Exactly Douglas, OWS is not even close to being considered the majority. The Oakland Occupy movement only mustered a few thousand people - there are over 400k people in Oakland. That's less than a percent of the local population they claim to represent. Just morons looking for a cause.
oh they want to whine about paying back their student loans for Women's Studies or Advanced Liberal Arts or some other valuable course of study. And now I can't even get a job with that valuable learning, so why the heck should I pay the loan back? You working stiffs should pay it for me so I can sit on my @ss somewhere and defy authority. They refuse to work, because then they would have to pay back the loan. They never intended to pay it back, isn't that fraud?
@Leroy: It stopped being that weeks ago man. Now it just what the aggitators and especially the whiners can get out of it.
OWS was a good thing until those got a hold of it. That means it was a good thing for maybe 10 days or so.
That's it Leroy. Sorry.
Douglas-339230
"Some of the stupid comments here make me ashamed of being American."
Shouldn't the comments and opinions of the writers on this blog be something that makes you proud to be an American rather than "ashamed"? The fact that you are an American allows you (yes you) and others to voice their opinions and argue their points publicly.
Go find another country that you can speak as freely as we are today.
People are going to see things differently than you my friend. It is in fact quite American.
Proud American
No Jblack, they do make me ashamed.
The comments are ignorant of fact and do not care to be accurate. Too many here and on Yahoo simply use these forums to whine and complain and do nothing whatsoever positive about the situation; they simple whine about how they are not being given what they feel they are entitled to. I, on the otherhand, have repeatedly informed people how they can get gainfully employed in the current economy. The advice may not be comfortable, but even you Jblack can check on the accuracy of it. Go down to your local Job Service office, and they will be able to tell you the very same advice.
Another country, heh Jblack? This shows your ignorance of what the world is like. I can go to the UK, France and Germany at very least, and have the same level of Freedom of Speech as I do here in the U.S.A.. Why can I? Because I do not place my opinion above the facts. On the other hand, I will and will not be given the other freedoms I want depending on the specific country. I was birthed in this nation, chose to be educated in this nation, chose to serve this nation and am choosing to give back to this nation that has given me oh so much by educating the less gifted how to compete with the lazy and selfish of this nation in the workplace.
Of course Jblack , people are going to see things differently, but that does not excuse them from ignoring the facts of the matter. This recession is in part happening because many common people will not get off their ever-loving behinds and go where the work is. It is just so much easier to sit down and whine instead or go out and blame others for your predicament, which is still a predicament because you will not go out and do what is required to be employed.
And Jblack, American Pride has what gotten us in this hole. I do not mean satisfaction in a job well done, in skills well-learned or in feeling good about your accomplishments. No, I am talking about that overweening hubris that makes a common American think he is oh so much better than anyone else, even his Fellow American, let alone a person from somewhere else. This is the pride that every holy book out there warns against. This is the pride that commeth before the fall. The stupidity of pride. The Sin of Pride. The Pride of "I am better than you, my fellow man". The Pride I hear loud and proud in your posting Jblack.
Douglas,
Can you explain to me how you can pass a law that upsurpes the Constitutional rights given to all citizens. For you reading pleasure I will quote the 1st amendment:
The 1st amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances
You then go on and explain how you can be "warned of consequences" and that invalidates the Constitution........I'll wait for the explanation of how a warning makes the constitution go away.
marklepew - can you explain what "upsurpes" means? For your reading pleasure, please consult a dictionary. And really, are you reading the right posts? I didn't read anything Douglas wrote that would suggest wanting to invalidating the constitution... it's like you had that paragraph ready to go and were waiting until the right moment to share it with the world... FAIL!
Had Enough,
Usurpers are individuals or groups of individuals who obtain and maintain the power or rights of another by force and without legal authority. I will acknowledge the mis-spell but is that the only thing you took from that statement I had made? If you can't see the disparity between to "impede" others and taking away the right to assemble there really isn't any reason for us to have a discussion........EPIC FAIL.....Had Enough do you follow Dougie around the boards to congratulate each other? Relationship material?
Good morning, Marklepew.
Thanks for responding to what I wrote, because yet again you failed to make any rational connection to what was written.
Let me briefly get this out of the way… I responded to one brief section of what Douglas had written… about OWS being the “Majority.” I responded to YOU about what YOU thought YOU derived from another one of his comments… not sure if that makes me a fan-boy or anything, but whatever. As for commenting on the innovative and provoking statements you made thereafter… well they just weren’t, so I didn’t. You are a tool for copying and pasting the 1st Amendment and using it to counter an argument that wasn’t even made.
I’m sorry I didn’t capture the true essence of what you wrote because even “usurpers” used in the context you used made no sense when referencing what was written. Simply because nothing Douglas wrote suggested impeding anyone’s rights, or “passing a law” to usurp constitutional rights… but rather than waste my time explaining that to you I merely tried to interject humor into my post because I love it when people tell others, “for your reading pleasure…blah, blah, blah,” and make no connection whatsoever.
Seriously though… impeding others? If you’re talking about the officers… no. Protestors??? Well yes, I’m sure they did impede on other students’ rights to attend class or to walk on a sidewalk that they pay to have access to. Does that make sense? The officers repeatedly told them to move as they cannot IMPEDE other students’ rights to do those things. Here’s a real-life example that we all probably agree on: The @!$%#bag demonstrators that protest at funerals have the right to protest, correct? But they cannot block the sidewalk to the gravesites, can they? That would impede the mourners access to the graveyard that they paid to use as a graveyard shall be used. Does that make sense?
As for the “relationship material” comment: You have a bunny with pancakes on its head as your profile picture, I’m pretty sure between the two of us, I’m the only one in a relationship.
Had,
Love the suspenders in the photo. The relationship you speak of, is she also your sister? I checked out her photos on your Facebook page and while she is not exactly my type, I accept that other people have different preferences. Even when those preferences include facial tattoos and stretch pants constructed from sufficient material to shelter a small village. And their livestock. Some men enjoy dancing with other men without their tops on while others prefer the company of a woman two KFC family buckets away from upsetting the planet's rotational axis.
I read somewhere that Eskimos prefer women of girth as it provides warmth at night. I have seen the size of those igloos though and there is no way your girlfriend would make it through the opening. You could probably just construct one around her and despite the hassle of having to trudge out into the snow every day to catch and prepare the eighty seals required to maintain her mass, it would be like a kiln in there.
If I were an Eskimo, I would build my igloo next to a supermarket or on a tropical beach.
Yeah, that's kind of what I figured, useless thoughts from a tool. Couldn't keep up with the educational side of our conversation could you? That's ok, probably runs in your family.
Hadely,
"I merely tried to interject humor into my post"~Had Enought Yet?
Keep the day job if that's the best you can do buddy. As your name suggests... yes I've had enought of the incoherent ramblings of someone who "thinks" he is smart.
There is a reason a lot of people fear cops more than criminals. Guys like this deserve the name pig.
Ok all you crybaby's, just what would have been an acceptable means to remove the law breakers who you are crying over? I bet not one of you has a clue. Just go away please, get out of America if you can't deal with the reality of law enforcement.
Read, read this well you get the F out of my country.
The proper way to deal with them would have been to let them sit there as long as they want. Let them sit there in the sun. Let them sit there in the rain. Let them sit through the night, they day, Thanksgiving Break, Christmas Break, Spring Break. Let them sit there because that is our right as American citizens. People like Plaguetroll and Jarhead are too stupid - or simply do not want - to read the First Amendment, which states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Hmmm PlagueStupid and Jarhead, show me where in the preceding language it says "Congress shall make no law ... abridging ... the right of the people to peacable assemble on the campus of UC Davis". Not there, huh. Oh, and don't come back with the riposte that the First Amendment uses the word "Congress", it has long been the law of the land that the First Amendment applies to state and local governments. Oh, but you two wouldn't know about that would you. Nor would any of the other members of the far right whose first response to anyone who defends our First Amendment rights is to call them a liberal.
One final point before I leave you slugs. There is no evidence that the cops were ever threatened. There is no evidence of violence. There is only a group of officers dressed in riot gear, armed with billy clubs, tear gas, pepper spray, and hand guns and a bunch of college students sitting on the ground.
Lt. Pike you are a piece of filth. And so is everyone who defends you.
stupid @!$%#, they werent breaking any laws,last time i looked it was legal to peacfully protest
You know read (in small letters you dont deserve more) maybe I will go to Cuba it seems to be very quiet and calm there. Law enforcement BS I worked as a LEO for 32 years and I never had to beat up anybody I did know a few who could not hack it, two who are right now serving life sentences ,one was a freind but what he did was totally criminal, I am sorry for his family but he abused and overextened his authority for money, he will never get out. I feel no pity for what he did but he was wrong and what he did was inexcusable.
While I find no humor whatsoever in what this cop did. I have to say, The photoshoped pics are funny as heck. And I think it shows how stupid what he did was.
It is okay I am reading this article even though I am in class.... It is "Looking at Fine Art"
Wouldnt mind kidnapped one of those guards doing that and tie him up and spray his face too.
Vengeance is mine said the Lord.
Wow this is just ridiculous how can people of authority act so insane!!
I have a solution, stand up for what you believe, but if something is fluff, let it go, no need to get maced for nothing. If it is " right" though, be as a tree planted by the water. The ones here calling cops " pigs" may one day be thanking one that they or a family member is alive. Like any other job you find good and bad people in it.
Yes ralahinns we get it, geeze :0l
Look at most of these cops, they are fat slobs.God go to the gym..
Hey PLAGUExxNINJA-
You seem to have some real issues with badmouthing people. Time to start deleting you.....
You must be that type guy who is a cop or a wanna be cop.I bet your like 400 pounds,You have those coke bottle lenses.Oh yea last but not least you have posters all over your room of Navy Seals. Poser. PLAGUE NINJA
P.S do you still live home with your mommy. PLAGUE RAGUE The little Ninja ?
@ steve glad to see you fixed jim to gym. No need, to get upset. Already fought in Afghanistan so no need for the Navy Seal Posters, in my room nor the army of one @!$%#. You should go to MEPS and enlist, and we can see how tough your @!$%# really is when a DS gets in your ass, or better yet when you go to Afghanistan and have an IED blow your friend up, or get in a real fire fight @!$%#. Steve don't cry suck a D1ck!!!!
Plague - why would somebody enlist to fight a needless war? Because they couldn't find a real job? Is that what you did?
For record young man i served in Nam. My unit was Mac-Sog 1968- 1970. So don't give me your hero crap.
Plague...you rip on Steve for spelling gym wrong. Can you say run on sentence? I think you need a hug. You are very angry and hostile!
I have had friends over the years whose occupation was law enforcement, and I cannot imagine ANY of them doing something as vicious as this. The officer that did this should be fired. He obviously has a lot of resentment against these protesters, but he should have the self control to avoid this kind of situation.
Yes, most officers are fine people who do not get enough money or respect. Sadly, the few bad apples (like this fellow) who go into law enforcement because they like to bully others use the fact that, well, most officers don't get paid enough money and don't get enough respect--they do this to win sympathy.
The problem is not police officers in general. The problem is these police officers--one of whom did something he definitely should not have, and the others of whom should have stopped him and did not. The officer who acted and the officer's immediate, on the spot, supervisors should be fired. The others should be disciplined. We live in a nation of laws, and non-violent protest is allowed--though, yes, the protestors do get arrested and often have to pay fines.
One has to wonder why the people who so love to praise the Constitution can't get it through their heads that the Founding Fathers were themselves "protestors" who were disobeying laws. And, they weren't exactly nonviolent, either.
Lt. Pike makes $116,000.00 a year in salary. Now ask yourself why California is broke and the tuition is about to be raised. You just spew the liberal B S that you're taught in these brainwashing institutions.
r u sure he makes that? my dad just makes that and hes in a higher position in security then police officer.
sandigrams and beanathome - both of you are right on. Just as there are some bad apples in the OWS crowd that have ruined it in some places for the whole, so are officers like this in regards to the image and law they are sworn to up hold. While it does seem more and more officers throwing their weight around (no pun intended) there are still plenty of good ones ones out there, that don't get the pay and respect they deserve (kind of like teachers) and this incident does nothing more than further strain already stressed relations. This officers should be fired along with his on the spot supervisor and those who witnessed should receive a reprimand and training on handling situations like this.
It really pains me to see some of the bias and what I will call uneducated remarks on the thread. Regardless of your views of the OWS movement, actions like this cannot be tolerated. It can be a touchy subject, and yes those who want no part of this but get impacted none the less don't deserve it but at the same time should be glad to see the principals this country was founded on being put to work. Like it or not sometimes you have to allow things that you don't like to go on. The first amendment is not written so that you can enforce it when it benefits you but not when you don't agree.
As to my opinion of the OWS protesters, there are things I agree with that they are protesting for and there are other things that I think they are crazy for even trying to ask. But I know not everyone is the same in these groups and I do my best to sort the good and bad out b/c unfortunatly you are always going to have that in some degree; especially when protests like this grow to the size they are.
Now for the article itself - I don't find what happened amusing but I do find the picture humorous.
It it time.
Good post logic rules to bad not more people post like you.
Where is the fine art (federally subsidized) that pictures Obama getting pepper sprayed. Wasn't he there supporting the FLEA baggers who wouldn't budge on moving to the left or right.
Use fire hoses next time - they stink anyway
looks like a blatant assault to me!
To the uneducated and those ignorant of facts it may seem like an assault. But to those with education and knowledge you would be able to better understand what is occuring.
Thier right to assemble and free speech is protected and if they were to peacefully assemble on the grassy area the would be monitored but left alone. It would appear that this group decided to block a public sidewalk which is in violation of the law and the police issued the order asking them to clear the sidewalk. When they refused to comply the deployment of a less than lethal pepper spray was deployed.
In the past after verbalization hands on or batons would have been used. But the police than many call brutal today have taken great steps to employ these measures in the use of force chain to buffer the need for violent hands on or impact weapons by these less than lethal alternatives which overall help protect suspects from injury.
Their eyes may burn or their noses run but they are not injured, thanks to these police tactics. In my day there would have been a few busted heads and probably a few broken arms and other injuries. Police today are working to protect people, even idiots.
Okay then Arizona...You agree...They should protest...But not in your path...And violating them with pepper spray is what Jesus would do....
Sell those tickets to a rube....These cops were out of line. Period.
What happened in 1917 during the Russian Revolution is happening here. History repeats itself, socialist is one step to communism. Russia use the Art of War to make USA communism. Destory within.
I recall from my history that in the bolshevick revolution political leaders were attacked, they and their families were executed along with doctors, lawyers and other successful educated people. Private property was seized and "redistrubuted" as captured wealth. Within this a small group of people siezed power and control and communism was born.
Who knows, it may be begining here now.
That's not assault.
Work to change laws..but until you do live within them. I have little hope for the last free republic.
If you think America is free there is little hope for you.
For some reason I find it weird that both the School pres. and the supposive expert on force after the first video have accents. what ever happened to natural born americans running things and being the experts on america.
It's UC Davis..... not surprising really. Don't they seems so worldly?
Ummm, Mark? What do you want to bet that you "have an accent"? Is it Southern US? Is it Midwestern? Many people who are natural born citizens of the United States have "accents"--technically, all of them do since everyone has an "accent."
I find it amusing that people from the Southern US who speak an accented form of English that is inflected both by African languages and Irish (Gaelic) like to mock those who have accents. I could trace down your accent (Is it ultimately from Germany? Ultimately from the Netherlands? Ultimately from Scotland?) if I wanted--and I assure you that it isn't "American" unless you speak with a Cherokee or other Native American "accent."
beanathome
I find it amusing that you assumed Mark was from the Southern US. Your no different!
I have an HTML accent right now. :)
LOL
As a yankee transplanted south I have to laugh over the idea of accents. Been here going on 13 years now and still get teased about my up north accent. People here say I still sound like a yankee. People up where I lived most of my life tell me I sound like I'm southern.
Accents are everywhere used by everybody. Just because the way you speak sounds like everybody around you doesn't mean if you drive an hour away you'll still sound like everybody around you.